We all may just wake up some morning in the very near future to find that we are really in it ... BIG TIME ... based upon the rhetoric floating around in our media now.
David McGill has a weekly article called The Toll, a recent one of 10/28/07 that I made this (soon to be reposted) comment on ... I also placed it on Devin Barbers latest article of today at http://www.gather.com/viewMessage.jsp?messageId=9851624190126922
Thus my comment, now as an article, for what it may be worth. Feel free (encouraged) to also check out David and Devins articles.
As I read through all of this, attempting to see what it is that the debate is REALLY about ... it strikes me that it is all about personal philosophies all around.
The philosophy of the "hawks" that value more materialism, action and force of arms. Those that see the solving of their perceived problems in the world as requiring a physical solution, the more violent the better because they 'think' that such will solve the problem once and for all time (or at least as long as needed by 'their' standards ... which is often a very short term thing as they seldom look down the larger picture of the road of time) ... they forget (conveniently ?) that 'victims' hold grudges, even over centuries, that being a large part of what is always playing out in this world, especially in the middle east where the natural order of mostly tribal relationships has been unnaturally interrupted by the dominance of western powers that arbitrarily defined nationalism by drawing lines in the desert some relatively few years ago.
That being what the misused statement by the president of Iran was all about when he said what was truly and accurately (had it been interpreted properly) only a reference to "removing those LINES that define the UN-natural STATE of ..." Israel. To ONLY wipe the LINES of demarcation of ZIONISM (not Jews) from what was naturally a desert of NOMADIC interactions of the Arabs BEFORE 1948 (when it was initially TERRORIZED by fundamental Zionists FIRST) ...
But of course, as has become the 'natural' way of POLITICIANS world wide, things are only said with great calculation to effect a particular means or desire ... and those things said then most often do NOT reflect the truth of the matter(s).
Thus we have the TWO opposing SIDES here, that of the HAWKS that seem to need action to solve problems physically ... and the DOVES that would prefer a more peaceful solution, one that looks at a much larger picture in time, factoring in a more distant past as to just why people become upset and do the things they do ... then projecting the possible solutions into a longer future scenario to attempt to see how it MIGHT most likely turnout in the long run ... peace to them is worth doing it right and having it last ... for the Hawks, war is a way of life, peace is but a time to rebuild between wars, nothing else !
So why don't we cut through ALL of the BULL SHIT here and just admit where we each really stand on this issue (as if it were not evident already) and deal with THAT first ?
All of the other PROJECTIONS (as John points out) of the personal issues in our minds of the 'little people', the average citizen caught up in ALL of this, is completely overlooked and discounted WHEN we LABEL them in mass with our own inner projections of the way we each personally think ...
It is too damn bad that these international issues are not settled JUST by those that make the decisions, often for a much more PERSONAL reason than the ones they CLAIM in the name of their supposed "followers", we the citizens that often are expected to pay the ultimate price of it all ... both with our lives as well as our property.
Leadership on earth has always achieved it's desires by DIVIDING and CONQUERING ... be that withIN their own nations or institutions, OR on the world stage ...
United we stand and Divided we fall ... that applies to the personal and individual mind (left and right brain functions) ... on up the social pecking order ... all of the way to the world stage where we get either Peace or War ... and the natural results of which the one is Productive and the other is Destructive ... really a NO-BRAINER when you get right down to it ... united, at least with common goals of WHAT is MOST IMPORTANT would go a long way to making us all happier ...
I am sure there are many things that the Hawks can do to take out their natural aggressive tendencies ... short of involving us ALL in a world war ...
To be a dove and peaceful does NOT make one a SISSY ... it just makes one true to a natural nature that SHOULD be appreciated by ALL.
Jerry Kays, Oct 30, 2007, 12:58pm EDT
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977162447 )
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