There are countless ways to envision GOD (even God and god(s)), enough that should satisfy anyone and everyone. So, if we would just slow down a bit and seek out the basic fundamental truth of the subject, we might just find that we are all on the very same path, just using different tools and vehicles.
I have recently been very active on another thread where I have made a couple (or more) comments that are, seemingly to me, important enough to be shared further with all.
I will post them here hoping that you will excuse the inconsistencies of certain names and thoughts related to the original (more than to this) where they exist. Treat them as separate subjects if you so desire to read or comment here ... but if interested further, here is the article they come from.
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:10am EDT
My "faith" is that GOD is the ALL of Creation ... not "separate" from nor "outside" of, but that every aspect and piece of it are the "parts" of which GOD consists of.
GOD then being considered the relative whole, or "First Person" of the Trinity, depending upon how one wants to define relativities, would be a relative (+) ... Creation then is the relative (-) ... and ubiquitous throughout Creation is the Holy Spirit of GOD as the (=) ... All together (+=-).
In the above "arrangement" it is the Spiritual component, of GOD, as the (=) being the closest and most sublime experience we can have of GOD as living breathing humans ... and "that" Spirit can truthfully called (named) by anything that denotes it as to what it really is ... call it the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, your own Soul/higher Self, or even the Spirit of Christ, including the name Christ Jesus if one is so inclined ... but it must be, to be true, your most highest expectation of what GOD offers to you.
If you then are doing what you believe is the best that you can in following religious dogma and creed to the best of your ability believing it your highest truth, then you are OK in GOD's eye (so to speak) ...
So, as you Sue have said, we are each on our own path and at differing stages along the way ... some want to see a more objective Jesus Christ as their saving grace and best they can do pending his promised "second coming" ... others, such as myself, believe that the "second coming" will be when we open our body, mind, and Soul to the experience of reception of the Spirit from withIN ... by any "name" representing the highest truth and unconditional love available ...
The more conservative the outlook, the more reserved the person in the direction of objectivity and materialized "proofs" ... the more liberal the philosophy, the more open to potentials of possibility, especially in the realm of subjectivity ... which is what GOD and Spirit are most about.
IMnsHO.
The next is :
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 2:22pm EDT
I believe that GOD will present Himself to us as whatever we think we need to find Him ... assuming that we really and truly are looking for Him (or Her) ..
Then be that, as in my case, a higher Self, found to be my Soul, ...(and female in nature to balance "us" out to a neutral (=) in the total spiritual package, halfway between my "former" belief and that of an eventual Omega with GOD))... or in the case of TICA that being Jesus Christ ... and in the case of John (so it seems) it being "The Book" ...
Whatever the "Tool", whatever the "Image", whatever the "Concept" ... IF it is for the final goal of being close to GOD as the epitome of Love and Truth related to the whole of the UNIverse, "created" or "not", IF the intention and goal is sufficient in the eyes of said GOD, you will become united ... I believe myself "Spiritually" united, TICA believes herself so also via Christ ... John, I assume that you do also through The Book ... whatever it is that unites us with GOD unites us with each other THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD ... not JUST a TOOL ... we cannot really and truly define GOD, so the best that we can do, and that which we all do most often, is relate to GOD through the TOOL with which we used when we found "Him/Her/It" ... BUT ... forever remember and do not confuse ourselves, THE TOOL is NOT GOD ... it is but A PATH to GOD.
We pick the best tool for the job we attempt to complete ... the tool depends upon the problem we find in front of us that needs correcting, fixing, the best tool is that which does the best job solving our problem ... but I repeat, do not worship the tool in place of the goal, GOD.
This is all a very important issue that more of us need to look into in order to find our common ground around our "source" rather than the "tools" we use. Lets not fight over the tools, there are more than enough to go around ... and for certain ones, we can always share them ... as we would prefer to share GOD with each other. IMnsHO.
And finally the conclusion:
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:02pm EDT
I expect that I am probably about finished on this thread, so will offer one final thought before I go and turn a couple of my earlier comments into my own latest article/post ... I feel that this entire discussion has been very beneficial to us all ... wishful thinking aside. :-)
My latest thought was about the Title of this article ... the nature of the FUNDAMENTAL ... GOD IS THE FUNDAMENTAL ... all else are but various things of which "tools" are a part of the "kit" we use to get down to the BASIC FUNDAMENTAL ...
A belief system for seeking GOD will often be then a "tool" ... many use what they call FAITH ... that often based upon certain tools ... the various faiths being the various tools.
Sometimes, often, a certain tool takes us just so far towards our eventual "repairs" ... sometimes we then, if not yet completely satisfied with the quality and success of our endeavor, switch over to another different, yet related, tool ... whatever it takes to get us to the completion we desire or dream of ...
Some folks only seek a "serviceable" completion, one that "runs" and gets them down the "road" ... their final destination is not the issue so much as the quality of the "ride" and their faith in the fact that they believe it will get them "there" wherever it is they may finally decide later that they want to go ... enjoy the ride then.
Other folks will maybe look for a little more pizazz or excitement for their Sunday Drive, they may want a different "vehicle" (tool) than others on the "road" (path) ... they (and that might refer to me) may not be satisfied with "ordinary" (orthodox) tools because they want to live out more on the edge ... the vehicle then needed by them will be different than others ... it may even be "faster" ... and thus more "dangerous" if mishandled ... it will not be the "fundamental" serviceable vehicle, it will be more "esoteric" ... one being more spiritually "electrified" and exciting to drive ...
And those with the slower yet serviceable, vehicles may get really upset when the speeders roar down "their" road ... after all, if everyone slows down, there will be fewer challenges, the drive will be more peaceful and though it may take longer, the reward will be the same ... so they think ... but will it ? I am not so sure ... I think there is enough road and even enough intermediary points for rest, relaxation, and recuperation, that those who want to use them can, and those more energized can get right on down the road to their final destination ... if they so desire. Some of us, probably all of us, will happily stop to help, or even pickup those along the way should they need or desire a different or speedier "trip" ... and possibly some different more interesting company to converse with ...
There is no need to set up road blocks to check vehicles and credentials as some religious institutions want to do ... the road is not a tollway, it is a free highway with plenty of room ... just watch out for the turnoffs and curves ... and be careful not to stray into oncoming lanes because there are others going different places for different reasons driving different vehicles and using different tools to repair them ...
Let us try to see the "bigger picture" and share it ... be an exoteric fundamentalist if you so choose, but allow the esoteric spiritualist a place on the road also. Please !
Those of you who took the time to read all of this, I thank you profusely from the bottom of my heart. Nemaste, j.
(reprint from:http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977867244 )
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