I watched this a couple years ago and felt it very true ... and of late it seems to becoming ever more true ... this should be taken into consideration by all sane people ... NOW!
https://youtu.be/vM-PcocIDB0
Friday, May 22, 2020
Banned by Face Book ... just happened to me ... and proud of it.
I am not really all that surprised what with the latest trends on the social media platforms that place 'The System' first and foremost ahead of their contributors. For many years now I have been posting articles alerting those interested to the truths about how our major Institutions have been lying to us all along. Most notably this came to a head with my being banned from FB with no warning nor specifics given.
With my knowing full well about how our Main Stream Media (MSM) lies to us all of the time, I frequent the Alternative Media sites to find out what is going on and why. There one can find those who value, seek and share, the higher truths, not for the sake of profit or ego gratification but just to share something rather rare and valuable with their fellow human beings. Our connection is that of wanting to make this world a better place for all, especially for those who would value truth over lies.
Our world is in a crisis mode where change, not for the better yet, is increasing by near geometrical rate and proportion, our would-be controllers and wanna-be masters, the 'elites', commonly classed as the .01% are showing more and more their truer colors, and those are very dark colors. Their plan has been long in planning, you might say even pre-biblical, it is all about complete world domination with complete loss of freedom for those of us not of their 'class' ...
My articles have been primarily about such issues, and though I suspected that I was being 'watched' and that the day of my banning was eventually coming, I was still a bit surprised just yesterday when I attempted to log in and could not ... anyway, in case any are interested, here is a link to my FB posts that were so unacceptable:
file:///C:/Users/jckay_000/AppData/Local/Temp/Temp1_last%20file%20of%20fb.zip/posts/your_posts
_1.html
Meanwhile, I have just joined a group hosted by Brian Rose of London Real , check out: https://reclaimthenet.org/london-real-new-digital-platform/ where those of us with similar experiences are coming together to combat the injustice of it all.
Please consider joining us.
With my knowing full well about how our Main Stream Media (MSM) lies to us all of the time, I frequent the Alternative Media sites to find out what is going on and why. There one can find those who value, seek and share, the higher truths, not for the sake of profit or ego gratification but just to share something rather rare and valuable with their fellow human beings. Our connection is that of wanting to make this world a better place for all, especially for those who would value truth over lies.
Our world is in a crisis mode where change, not for the better yet, is increasing by near geometrical rate and proportion, our would-be controllers and wanna-be masters, the 'elites', commonly classed as the .01% are showing more and more their truer colors, and those are very dark colors. Their plan has been long in planning, you might say even pre-biblical, it is all about complete world domination with complete loss of freedom for those of us not of their 'class' ...
My articles have been primarily about such issues, and though I suspected that I was being 'watched' and that the day of my banning was eventually coming, I was still a bit surprised just yesterday when I attempted to log in and could not ... anyway, in case any are interested, here is a link to my FB posts that were so unacceptable:
file:///C:/Users/jckay_000/AppData/Local/Temp/Temp1_last%20file%20of%20fb.zip/posts/your_posts
_1.html
Meanwhile, I have just joined a group hosted by Brian Rose of London Real , check out: https://reclaimthenet.org/london-real-new-digital-platform/ where those of us with similar experiences are coming together to combat the injustice of it all.
Please consider joining us.
Friday, March 20, 2020
THE RESET JUST HAPPENED | Gregory Mannarino
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Thursday, February 16, 2017
Sunday, January 29, 2017
THE KOLBRIN ... GOD ... versus God(s) and gods.
In the realm(s) of Gods and gods, there seems to often exist "ownerships", be they via the various religions, or just private interpretations and definitions of claimed relative truths, almost always, it is the claim of each adherent that theirs alone is the highest truth.
History is replete with countless wars where certain religions were involved to a large extent, if not being the sole basis of the conflicts. The "True Believers" of whichever persuasion, always insist that it is the message of the other's that is Satanic or Evil.
GOD, on the other hand, stands for none of that, GOD is "generic", is without a brand or institutional authority. GOD is purely Spirit, and Spiritual is the experience of those who have discovered this Highest Truth.
GOD is personal, in that the experience of, is through an INternal Gnosis, an actual experience of your relationship between the egoic "lower" self and the Spiritual "higher" Self, the latter the very Soul of the INdividual. In having been ever so fortunate to have "discovered" that, I have had, ever since, an unquenchable thirst for the highest truth concerning all things, temporal and eternal.
My studies, and experiences, have led me deep into all subject matters related in whatever way, from the highest matters of Love and it's creative nature, to the lowest concepts of Fear and the destructive nature of Evil.
My "mission" in life is solely intended to help others also discover the "Saving Grace" of highest Truth. To know the Truth is to be set Free ... free from all fear. As to written sources available for folks to discover higher truths, there are countless possibilities, I have looked into many and found none, until just the other day, that were as concise and to the point, without a need to make any kind of formal commitment, as that found in those pages numbered between #126 and #145 of "The Kolbrin", a "Book", of sorts, with a unique history having been mostly lost through time, but relatively recently brought forth for the edification of mankind ... at least for those who would appreciate the simplicity of INtuitive understanding without the pomp and circumstance of Religious Instruction.
Do yourselves a favor and set a little time aside for an honest INtrospection, download the following pdf and see if what I have said stands your own test of truth. Essentially, pages 126 through 145 of:
"THE KOLBRIN"... Let me know what you think, pro or con.
History is replete with countless wars where certain religions were involved to a large extent, if not being the sole basis of the conflicts. The "True Believers" of whichever persuasion, always insist that it is the message of the other's that is Satanic or Evil.
GOD, on the other hand, stands for none of that, GOD is "generic", is without a brand or institutional authority. GOD is purely Spirit, and Spiritual is the experience of those who have discovered this Highest Truth.
GOD is personal, in that the experience of, is through an INternal Gnosis, an actual experience of your relationship between the egoic "lower" self and the Spiritual "higher" Self, the latter the very Soul of the INdividual. In having been ever so fortunate to have "discovered" that, I have had, ever since, an unquenchable thirst for the highest truth concerning all things, temporal and eternal.
My studies, and experiences, have led me deep into all subject matters related in whatever way, from the highest matters of Love and it's creative nature, to the lowest concepts of Fear and the destructive nature of Evil.
My "mission" in life is solely intended to help others also discover the "Saving Grace" of highest Truth. To know the Truth is to be set Free ... free from all fear. As to written sources available for folks to discover higher truths, there are countless possibilities, I have looked into many and found none, until just the other day, that were as concise and to the point, without a need to make any kind of formal commitment, as that found in those pages numbered between #126 and #145 of "The Kolbrin", a "Book", of sorts, with a unique history having been mostly lost through time, but relatively recently brought forth for the edification of mankind ... at least for those who would appreciate the simplicity of INtuitive understanding without the pomp and circumstance of Religious Instruction.
Do yourselves a favor and set a little time aside for an honest INtrospection, download the following pdf and see if what I have said stands your own test of truth. Essentially, pages 126 through 145 of:
"THE KOLBRIN"... Let me know what you think, pro or con.
Monday, November 1, 2010
CORPORATIONS ARE JUST PEOPLE ?
The Supreme Court Sold Out Our Democracy -- How to Fight the Corporate Takeover of Our Elections
Historian Thom Hartmann discusses the history of corruption that led up to the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling.READ MORE
Joshua Holland / AlterNet http://www.alternet.org/story/148608/the_supreme_court_sold_out_our_democracy_--_how_to_fight_the_corporate_takeover_of_our_elections
This is a most interesting "discovery" for those concerned about the great wealth that has been severily influencing our laws and elections ... and giving a small glimmer of hope for a way to correct the situation we are in ... which never should have happened in the first place.
(reprint from http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978636561 where more active links exist )
Historian Thom Hartmann discusses the history of corruption that led up to the Supreme Court's Citizens United ruling.READ MORE
Joshua Holland / AlterNet http://www.alternet.org/story/148608/the_supreme_court_sold_out_our_democracy_--_how_to_fight_the_corporate_takeover_of_our_elections
This is a most interesting "discovery" for those concerned about the great wealth that has been severily influencing our laws and elections ... and giving a small glimmer of hope for a way to correct the situation we are in ... which never should have happened in the first place.
(reprint from http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978636561 where more active links exist )
How Radical Christian Conservatives May Succeed in Destroying Democracy
"They have, with the backing of hundreds of millions of dollars in corporate money, gained tremendous power. They peddle pseudoscience such as “Intelligent Design” in our schools. They keep us locked into endless and futile wars of imperialism. They mount bigoted crusades against gays, immigrants, liberals and Muslims. They turn our judiciary, in the name of conservative values, over to corporations. They have transformed our liberal class into hand puppets for corporate power. And we remain meek and supine.
The huge amount of taxpayer money doled out to Wall Street, investment banks, the oil and natural gas industry and the defense industry, along with the dismantling of our manufacturing sector, is why we are impoverished."
This is but a small part of one of the best written expose's of the truth of our social peril that I have come across ... please read the entire article and comment ...
"There will be no swastikas this time but seas of red, white and blue flags and Christian crosses. There will be no stiff-armed salutes, but recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance." By Chris Hedges ... ( http://www.alternet.org/story/148467/how_radical_christian_conservatives_may_succeed_in_destroying_democracy?page=entire )
(original at http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978604626 where there are many active links to related material)
The huge amount of taxpayer money doled out to Wall Street, investment banks, the oil and natural gas industry and the defense industry, along with the dismantling of our manufacturing sector, is why we are impoverished."
This is but a small part of one of the best written expose's of the truth of our social peril that I have come across ... please read the entire article and comment ...
"There will be no swastikas this time but seas of red, white and blue flags and Christian crosses. There will be no stiff-armed salutes, but recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance." By Chris Hedges ... ( http://www.alternet.org/story/148467/how_radical_christian_conservatives_may_succeed_in_destroying_democracy?page=entire )
(original at http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978604626 where there are many active links to related material)
Conservative think tanks are the answer to liberal academia. Myth or Truth ?
The far right's effort to create an intellectual conservative movement is truly comprehensive, well-funded and well-organized. They are not only building think tanks at the national level, but the state level as well, since congressional conservatives are trying to devolve power to the states. They are targeting the nation's elite universities, providing funding for conservative academic programs, conservative college newspapers, and conservative scholarships. Financially, liberals fall far behind in all these efforts. (from: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-thinktank.htm )
In addition to the above, News Networks such as FOX use them as a routine source of information to be disseminated to the gullible public. IMnsHO
In addition to the above, News Networks such as FOX use them as a routine source of information to be disseminated to the gullible public. IMnsHO
The "Mosque" ... the two common views as opposed to the third uncommon view ...
It is so sad that the leaders of this nation, and others, along with the media that informs everyone, are so ignorant concerning the real meanings involved with the acts and thoughts mentioned here ...
The idea, also held and promoted by most religions, that what we see objectively on the surface is what things are all about.
All major religions are much more like almost all peoples that think about them and everything else ... they are simply dualistic (+/-) in that there is good and there is bad, that the major differences in the extremes is what it is all about and the only thing that should be considered, choose your (actually "their", the "authorities" and "leaders") versions of good and deny, fight, and try to "exterminate" the "other", the "bad" ... never ever attempt to understand the nuances, the middle ground grey areas, no no no, never any of that, called "fence sitting" as if it were evil itself ... compassion and cooperation are said to be weaknesses by the dualists ...
The real truth of the universe, denied out of ignorance by world dualists, is that we are all one and that the total is GOD and there is a ubiquitous Spirit as the Trinity aspect, being the (=) in between the potentials of positive (+) and negative (-) choices and realities of this thing we call reality ... (+=-) ... as paradoxical as that seems to objective dualists, it is the subjective truth ...
Back to the Mosque/Koran/Flag/Bible aspects of it all ... they are but OBJECTS that people superficially wrap their minds around ... and most religions, the "orthodox" variety, also see things too objectively involving more the symbols themselves, rather than the subjective spiritual meanings that lie a priori and underneath, the real meanings ... taking the shallow meanings as the sum total as they deny and reject the essence that should be most important ...
Just as Christian "orthodoxy" denies the validity of their own religious Mystics", those that are essentially all about Love and Peace, the Truth ... calling them occult, relating them to evil, and labeling them at best heretical ... so do the Muslims related to their own Mystics, the Sufi, of which the Imam Rauf has always been associated with ... those who practice Jihad as the improvement of the Mind INternally related to Love and Compassion ... as opposed to orthodoxy whose jihad is objective around killing people ... divisiveness, "othering", objective orthodoxy versus subjective Mysticism, the esoteric meanings of Universal Truths concerning Love ...
The promoter of the Mosque does have the better transcendent understanding and motives around the whole issue ... his detractors are just ignorant about the real truths and thus completely misguided ... and the Media is most instrumental in promoting the lessor view ...
IMnsHO.
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978507498 )
The idea, also held and promoted by most religions, that what we see objectively on the surface is what things are all about.
All major religions are much more like almost all peoples that think about them and everything else ... they are simply dualistic (+/-) in that there is good and there is bad, that the major differences in the extremes is what it is all about and the only thing that should be considered, choose your (actually "their", the "authorities" and "leaders") versions of good and deny, fight, and try to "exterminate" the "other", the "bad" ... never ever attempt to understand the nuances, the middle ground grey areas, no no no, never any of that, called "fence sitting" as if it were evil itself ... compassion and cooperation are said to be weaknesses by the dualists ...
The real truth of the universe, denied out of ignorance by world dualists, is that we are all one and that the total is GOD and there is a ubiquitous Spirit as the Trinity aspect, being the (=) in between the potentials of positive (+) and negative (-) choices and realities of this thing we call reality ... (+=-) ... as paradoxical as that seems to objective dualists, it is the subjective truth ...
Back to the Mosque/Koran/Flag/Bible aspects of it all ... they are but OBJECTS that people superficially wrap their minds around ... and most religions, the "orthodox" variety, also see things too objectively involving more the symbols themselves, rather than the subjective spiritual meanings that lie a priori and underneath, the real meanings ... taking the shallow meanings as the sum total as they deny and reject the essence that should be most important ...
Just as Christian "orthodoxy" denies the validity of their own religious Mystics", those that are essentially all about Love and Peace, the Truth ... calling them occult, relating them to evil, and labeling them at best heretical ... so do the Muslims related to their own Mystics, the Sufi, of which the Imam Rauf has always been associated with ... those who practice Jihad as the improvement of the Mind INternally related to Love and Compassion ... as opposed to orthodoxy whose jihad is objective around killing people ... divisiveness, "othering", objective orthodoxy versus subjective Mysticism, the esoteric meanings of Universal Truths concerning Love ...
The promoter of the Mosque does have the better transcendent understanding and motives around the whole issue ... his detractors are just ignorant about the real truths and thus completely misguided ... and the Media is most instrumental in promoting the lessor view ...
IMnsHO.
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978507498 )
FOR ABOUT 2,000 YEARS NOW IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING ... a timely reminder.
What is happening has been happening for over 2,000 years now ... it is called "Divide and Conquer" ... ever since Augustine encouraged Christians to look at religion Dualistically (+/-) and encouraged the "taking of sides" as in God VERSUS Satan, all of the followers have been doing so and affecting (infecting is more like it) the entire world with that Divisive Philosophy sold by the Religion of that name ...
All of our leaders since then have informed us that (+=+) and (-=-) and like East and West, the twain shall never meet ... divisiveness has been our modus operandi ever since ...
The real Dividers, the "fallen leaders", have taken the role of what Satan would be, if there were such, a hidden secretive position out of our sight, dictating to us what He/They want us to believe ... the same dictated to the visable leaders, religious and secular, who we are encouraged to watch and listen to (just like puppets) as if there were none above them (the hidden puppet masters) ... (politically, as in the case of our Republican and Democratic politicians ... who we are told represent us ... but in fact have all sold their souls already to the ones "above" them) ...
Thus we as followers have went along with the divisions, and think that it is us against them, one division against it's opposite (visable) other ... all the while we play into the hands of those above who control secretly the entire "game" ...
The "Church" has said; hear me, listen to me, follow me and my words ... they have written the bibles to that end ... divide the folks between the good guys, supposedly on the "side of" God and the bad guys, of course then, on the side of Satan ... aware or not, just by default, supposedly, if not actively, taking the good side ... "No Fence Sitting" allowed (Grey areas in between are "off limits", leaving only polarized Duality) ...
Some religious teaching speaks of the Trinity of the Father God, the Son Christ, and the Holy Spirit that INterconnects them all ...
But none seem to understand that the Trinity is a relationship between relative symbols of (+=-) ... where the Father would be the (+) ... the Son, as Creation, including we brothers and sisters of Jesus the (-) ... the most important part, the INterconnecting third, that of the Holy Spirit of GOD, the (=) ... all together (+=-) !
When we then INherit knowingly withIN ourselves, the Holy Spirit as (=), we become "transformed", "saved" and "graced" into the Christ Spirit ... the Same as was the person Jesus in His day and time ... then being effectively his Brothers and Sisters in GOD, the True Church, the Natural and Holy Church of generic Spirituality, without name, creed nor dogma ...
When that happens to us we will have transcended the church of the institutions and will be as close to GOD as we are expected to get in our lifetime ... we will then know and have, The Truth That Sets Us Free !!! Free form Dualism's Divisiveness and thus open to Cooperation with diverse differences where the (+) and the (-) accept each others true worth and work together for common cause of the greater (whole) good ... thereby creating a SYNERGY of INcrease that is a Win/Win, rather than the Win/Lose of Duality ...
Mark my words folks ... most all have been deceived since the very beginning of religious time ... by their own religions ... long ago corrupted by the so-called "devil" in the twisting of a Trinity (+=-) into a Duality (+/-) ...
If you do not yet understand or believe this ... hopefully you will one day before it is too late ... GOD is UNconditional LOVE and Highest Truth ... anything less is less ... maybe a God or god ... but not GOD.
IMnsHO
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978330632 )
All of our leaders since then have informed us that (+=+) and (-=-) and like East and West, the twain shall never meet ... divisiveness has been our modus operandi ever since ...
The real Dividers, the "fallen leaders", have taken the role of what Satan would be, if there were such, a hidden secretive position out of our sight, dictating to us what He/They want us to believe ... the same dictated to the visable leaders, religious and secular, who we are encouraged to watch and listen to (just like puppets) as if there were none above them (the hidden puppet masters) ... (politically, as in the case of our Republican and Democratic politicians ... who we are told represent us ... but in fact have all sold their souls already to the ones "above" them) ...
Thus we as followers have went along with the divisions, and think that it is us against them, one division against it's opposite (visable) other ... all the while we play into the hands of those above who control secretly the entire "game" ...
The "Church" has said; hear me, listen to me, follow me and my words ... they have written the bibles to that end ... divide the folks between the good guys, supposedly on the "side of" God and the bad guys, of course then, on the side of Satan ... aware or not, just by default, supposedly, if not actively, taking the good side ... "No Fence Sitting" allowed (Grey areas in between are "off limits", leaving only polarized Duality) ...
Some religious teaching speaks of the Trinity of the Father God, the Son Christ, and the Holy Spirit that INterconnects them all ...
But none seem to understand that the Trinity is a relationship between relative symbols of (+=-) ... where the Father would be the (+) ... the Son, as Creation, including we brothers and sisters of Jesus the (-) ... the most important part, the INterconnecting third, that of the Holy Spirit of GOD, the (=) ... all together (+=-) !
When we then INherit knowingly withIN ourselves, the Holy Spirit as (=), we become "transformed", "saved" and "graced" into the Christ Spirit ... the Same as was the person Jesus in His day and time ... then being effectively his Brothers and Sisters in GOD, the True Church, the Natural and Holy Church of generic Spirituality, without name, creed nor dogma ...
When that happens to us we will have transcended the church of the institutions and will be as close to GOD as we are expected to get in our lifetime ... we will then know and have, The Truth That Sets Us Free !!! Free form Dualism's Divisiveness and thus open to Cooperation with diverse differences where the (+) and the (-) accept each others true worth and work together for common cause of the greater (whole) good ... thereby creating a SYNERGY of INcrease that is a Win/Win, rather than the Win/Lose of Duality ...
Mark my words folks ... most all have been deceived since the very beginning of religious time ... by their own religions ... long ago corrupted by the so-called "devil" in the twisting of a Trinity (+=-) into a Duality (+/-) ...
If you do not yet understand or believe this ... hopefully you will one day before it is too late ... GOD is UNconditional LOVE and Highest Truth ... anything less is less ... maybe a God or god ... but not GOD.
IMnsHO
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978330632 )
Welcome to America, sucker.
Our world business model is more and more showing just what it is made of ... a Ponzi scheme ... but only the relatively "little guys" seem to get caught ... because the really big boys actually make the laws through paying off our politicians who in that sense protect them.
I dare you all to read this and make your comment:
How Our Entire Economy Became a Ponzi Scheme: ( http://www.alternet.org/story/146027/how_our_entire_economy_became_a_ponzi_scheme?page=entire )
We're only just discovering how widespread the rip-off schemes riddling our economy are.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978114598 where many comments have live links to more supporting information)
I dare you all to read this and make your comment:
How Our Entire Economy Became a Ponzi Scheme: ( http://www.alternet.org/story/146027/how_our_entire_economy_became_a_ponzi_scheme?page=entire )
We're only just discovering how widespread the rip-off schemes riddling our economy are.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978114598 where many comments have live links to more supporting information)
DIVIDE AND CONTROL ... NONE DARE CALL IT A CONSPIRACY.
When I was young and far more idealistic I always thought that when it came to politics that I would vote, when I got old enough, for the best man for the job. I had heard enough of party faithfulness from my mom who was a Democrat and my step dad who was a Republican …
When I did get old enough to vote I recognized myself as leaning towards the down trodden, the common man as compared to super big business and their wants. So for a long while I claimed myself as a Democrat, at least in my “leanings” …
Eventually I realized that they were all liars in promising everything and coming up with much of nothing. That depressed me in mid life to the degree that I sought something better from outside of the normal institutional offerings. I sought either truth or suicide (in effect) … I did not see much hope in a lying greedy and war mongering society, and I saw no answer in religions either, at least as I knew of them at the time.
I then just happened to have a spontaneous “Spiritual Awakening” of the natural “generic” kind, it came from withIN, not from some “OUTer” Institution full of dogma and creed …
The “point being” … I had thought for myself in life, seeking something above what society seemed to offer … and I eventually found it in GOD and a Spiritual Insight Involving Intuition, on and of my very own.
It was only then that I gained the confidence of my own views being more “right” (correct) more often than those of most of society in general.
Before that, I had sought the answers to world problems based upon the problems themselves and found that such reasoning always seemed to go in circles and seldom solved the problem, only bringing up countless other related problems.
Now I have found the truth of how the universe works and know it is not on the level of exclusive dualism where right is good and wrong is bad and the two have no relationship, with that deemed the lesser only suitable for fighting and destroying … where there is always a gap or void being maintained between the subjective determinations of positive and negative, IE, (+/-) …our present world view based upon our ignorance of the truth.
The UNIverse of the Unconditionally Loving GOD that I now know, works on a Trinity principle, of positives and negatives Interconnected with the Spirit of GOD, that Spirit designated as the “=“ in (+=-).
World Institutions have bastardized that UNIversal Truth into putting themselves in the place of the Spirit, and then dividing the natural positives and negatives into warring factions, pulling the strings of those below separated into two opposing camps … politically into Republican and Democrat, Conservative and Liberal … the “good” and the “bad” where each side is convinced they are better than the other … thus there is always competitive conflict and very seldom any cooperation because polarization is encouraged by the “controllers” who have adopted the position of Spirit as the “=“ and placed it out of sight far above in the shadows while breaking the linkage between those of us on the bottom and placing a void between us in “their” desire to “divide and control” us all …
They actually conspire in doing so, but then through the media empires they also own and control, they convince us that it is stupid to suggest that any conspiracy ever takes place …
They have in fact conspired to take control of all of the MSM and allow FOX to be the blatant standard of Far Right Conservatives … convincing their loyal followers that FOX is the only fair and balanced truth tellers available as they at the same time convince their followers to never trust the rest of the MSM because they are all said to be too Liberal.
At the very same time the “other” Media outlets really only play the role of Liberal in order to illicit trust in their voices from the Liberal side … but when things important to the owner/controllers come up, there will be whatever it takes saying to get the audience to support those most important key issues … “they”, the controllers, own the think-tanks that are always working on making sure that things go as planned … we are all being had … big time !
I realize that this information seems way too far out, just the rantings of a mad man to most of you readers, but that is the very plan of the mentioned controllers coming into fruition … to keep you all believing in only what “they” tell you insures “their” success … and ultimately your (our) loss … IMnsHO.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036439 )
When I did get old enough to vote I recognized myself as leaning towards the down trodden, the common man as compared to super big business and their wants. So for a long while I claimed myself as a Democrat, at least in my “leanings” …
Eventually I realized that they were all liars in promising everything and coming up with much of nothing. That depressed me in mid life to the degree that I sought something better from outside of the normal institutional offerings. I sought either truth or suicide (in effect) … I did not see much hope in a lying greedy and war mongering society, and I saw no answer in religions either, at least as I knew of them at the time.
I then just happened to have a spontaneous “Spiritual Awakening” of the natural “generic” kind, it came from withIN, not from some “OUTer” Institution full of dogma and creed …
The “point being” … I had thought for myself in life, seeking something above what society seemed to offer … and I eventually found it in GOD and a Spiritual Insight Involving Intuition, on and of my very own.
It was only then that I gained the confidence of my own views being more “right” (correct) more often than those of most of society in general.
Before that, I had sought the answers to world problems based upon the problems themselves and found that such reasoning always seemed to go in circles and seldom solved the problem, only bringing up countless other related problems.
Now I have found the truth of how the universe works and know it is not on the level of exclusive dualism where right is good and wrong is bad and the two have no relationship, with that deemed the lesser only suitable for fighting and destroying … where there is always a gap or void being maintained between the subjective determinations of positive and negative, IE, (+/-) …our present world view based upon our ignorance of the truth.
The UNIverse of the Unconditionally Loving GOD that I now know, works on a Trinity principle, of positives and negatives Interconnected with the Spirit of GOD, that Spirit designated as the “=“ in (+=-).
World Institutions have bastardized that UNIversal Truth into putting themselves in the place of the Spirit, and then dividing the natural positives and negatives into warring factions, pulling the strings of those below separated into two opposing camps … politically into Republican and Democrat, Conservative and Liberal … the “good” and the “bad” where each side is convinced they are better than the other … thus there is always competitive conflict and very seldom any cooperation because polarization is encouraged by the “controllers” who have adopted the position of Spirit as the “=“ and placed it out of sight far above in the shadows while breaking the linkage between those of us on the bottom and placing a void between us in “their” desire to “divide and control” us all …
They actually conspire in doing so, but then through the media empires they also own and control, they convince us that it is stupid to suggest that any conspiracy ever takes place …
They have in fact conspired to take control of all of the MSM and allow FOX to be the blatant standard of Far Right Conservatives … convincing their loyal followers that FOX is the only fair and balanced truth tellers available as they at the same time convince their followers to never trust the rest of the MSM because they are all said to be too Liberal.
At the very same time the “other” Media outlets really only play the role of Liberal in order to illicit trust in their voices from the Liberal side … but when things important to the owner/controllers come up, there will be whatever it takes saying to get the audience to support those most important key issues … “they”, the controllers, own the think-tanks that are always working on making sure that things go as planned … we are all being had … big time !
I realize that this information seems way too far out, just the rantings of a mad man to most of you readers, but that is the very plan of the mentioned controllers coming into fruition … to keep you all believing in only what “they” tell you insures “their” success … and ultimately your (our) loss … IMnsHO.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978036439 )
Yes Christianity IS the religion of PAUL !
Yes Christianity IS the religion of PAUL !
Now as for the Jews and the offshoot Christian relationship with Muslims ... it all goes way way way back ... back beyond where people will even look in this day and age, so set are they in their
dualistic world view of supposed reality ... as if the Bible was a true story of much of anything ... a few thousand years of brain-washing and we have what we have ... world wide !
Let us take that OT Bible at face value then ... especially with all of the things in it about nastiness and killing etc ... why would it be there if it had no part of the reality of the time ? ... where there is so much smoke there is usually a fire of some kind.
Religions in general, especially Christianity, trys to ignore, and actually actively condemns what they call the "New-Age" of belief ...
Let me explain that just a bit ... the NA is full of people just beginning to open to it ... their INtuitions tell them that the religions of old have not done a very good job of giving peace and truth to the people of the world ... they want something better, something more loving and peaceful ... not all that different than the movement of the 60's when the young people sought similar changes ...
In the 60's there was a spiritual energy that came from that realm which caused people to change their thinking in mass ... and some drugs led to people experiencing some breakthroughs in the rigidity of their mind-sets, opening them up to other potentials as they allowed themselves to break free of the box that society until then had attempted to build around their thinking ... a box of confinement that the social (and religious) leaders had the answers where materialism and war was "the way" ...
Of course the late-comers in mass did not get "that" message, they missed the esoteric message of real social change and naturally fell head over heals (literally) in love with the exoteric love and drug highs (which went together) ... the esoteric love of all humans was ignored when the exoteric idea of personal conquest in the name of one on one love "acts" gave more "immediate pleasure" ... in that sense the entire movement got a bad rap and petered out (literally) ...
But the NA movement continues and those with the true INtuitive message from the spiritual realm have did their best to explain it by writing countless excellent books about it ... one of the first that I came across was Marilyn Ferguson's " The Aquarian Conspiracy " (highly recommended even now) ... there are countless others available also ... another one that explains the "movement" more "scientifically" would be " Paths Beyond Ego" by Walsh and Vaughan, in which they say:
"" And yet if we only knew how each loss of one's viewpoint is a progress and how life changes when one passes from the stage of the closed truth to the stage of the open truth ... a truth like life itself, too great to be trapped by points of view, because it embraces every point of view ... a truth great enough to deny itself and pass endlessly into a higher truth. ""
But then as well as now, people settle for lesser truths and tend to stop and endlessly play-around with them ... just like the "druggies" of the 60's, the NA'ers who give that a bad name ... and the exoteric religionists of today that settle for the orthodoxy and push their far right conservative versions of Evangelicalism onto everyone they can. ... Often a really good barrel of apples gets entirely spoiled when the few rotten ones are not soon removed and set aside to do their own thing ...
So, back to the OT Bible and the Jews ... NA esoteric information, that more recently "channeled" from the spiritual realm (some extremely accurate and much a bunch of garbage, depending upon the character of the recipient) tells us of the vast cosmic histories which have led up to the human condition here on earth ... where there has been much participation, some good and some bad, from other "more" spiritual realms of our solar system and well beyond ... especially well beyond ... in the "seeding" (genetic engineering) the human "evolution" (let us set the actual "creation" issue aside here) ... not to mention the information that earth has had other "evolved" inhabitants who have "disappeared" at various times due to huge upheavals to nature due to cosmic seasons of origin ... and even a "helping" by the spiritual powers who could do so ... which are not insubstantial truth be known.
The Jews, it is said, are the first of the "advanced" (genetically superior) earth humans ... having come here from another planet in our system which was destroyed in galactic warring ... they had "leaders" who were "more evolved" who were able to advance into spiritual realms and dimensions "above" them ... it was those "leaders", gods actually ... that are written of in the oldest writings known to earth humans, the Tablets of Sumer ... those Tablet messages tell a story of the truth of such beginnings ... and they would explain ... for those willing to step out of the Box that Religion has constructed around them, how those gods concocted a story of God which became the OT Bible ...
The story, especially that explained in the vast writings of Zecharia Sitchen who actually learned the language of the Tablets, puts the entire matter into it's true place in our history ... a place that existing exoteric orthodoxy denies because their entire box of preferred reality depends upon the upholding of their "story" ... to hell with the real truth ... and why I maintain that the true (so-called) "evil" is the very folks that call "others" evil !!!
The God of the Jews ... and subsequently of the Christians ... and of the Muslims ... is the God created by the gods of the Sumer era !!!
Believe it or not, most will not ... but it lends reason to the conflicts in the name of God that have taken place here ever since ... The human race of "that time" was "modified" to become "materialistic" and to value Gold ... to the degree that we would be consumed by the seeking of it ... and the hoarding of it.
The reason being ... the gods required it for their own planetary uses ... on a particular planet that rotates through our solar system only every so many thousands of years due to it's strange orbit which is vastly different than the ones we (the common folk) know about ...
But those "left in charge" on earth would have a "religion" that kept them in line and supporting the needs of those not here ever since ... of course what these here have not realized, is that even those "gods" have found their truth and peace associated with the greater picture of the "Real GOD" ... yet those here still answer to God rather than GOD.
Speaking of Jews ... and most importantly ... this is NOT ANTI-SEMITIC ... "anti-Semitic" being a word concocted by the Jews to insure that people would succumb to peer pressure so as to never speak ill of them ever again ... that enforced by the atrocities experienced during the Holocaust ... continuing on ... (their is a vast difference between the Jews and the Zionists ... with many overlaps of course) ... " The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion " actually tells a true story of "evil" intent in the concept of the end justifies the means as said God (in truth then intended) ...
Yes ... I know ... it has all been "proved" to be but a Russian Hoax ... BS !
I have read the entire manuscript repeatedly with spiritual truth seeking INtuition ... and take the mention of Jews out of it, even the Zionists of you prefer, and it still gives a most truthful outline of the feelings and intentions of those of vast wealth who would control this entire world for their own aims ... the greatest conspiracy of all time ... the most well protected one also ... but a vast conspiracy never the less ... no matter how many folks have preferred to believe that no such can or even could exist without them knowing about it ... the only reason people will not know about it is because they choose to not believe it ... the information exists !!! (Hidden and disinformationed as it has intentionally become).
If you think that the Arab world and the Muslims are not aware of this and putting some truth into the believing of it ... mis-informed and dis-informed as much of it might be ... the underlying truth of those intentions "rings their bells of credulity" ... and mine ... and I seek only the highest truth.
I do not mention this, and the dualisms of the world, in order to cast blame, make judgments and condemnations ... only to get to the basic truths so that all can see them in the proper light in order to have something true to base their decisions and discernments upon ... we can still, those willing anyway, forgive and love each other, get on with a new future finally based upon a truth rather than lies ... I rest my case (for now). PEACE !
IMnsHO.
(this was copied from a recent comment of mine on LYR ... )(from:http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977980050)
Now as for the Jews and the offshoot Christian relationship with Muslims ... it all goes way way way back ... back beyond where people will even look in this day and age, so set are they in their
dualistic world view of supposed reality ... as if the Bible was a true story of much of anything ... a few thousand years of brain-washing and we have what we have ... world wide !
Let us take that OT Bible at face value then ... especially with all of the things in it about nastiness and killing etc ... why would it be there if it had no part of the reality of the time ? ... where there is so much smoke there is usually a fire of some kind.
Religions in general, especially Christianity, trys to ignore, and actually actively condemns what they call the "New-Age" of belief ...
Let me explain that just a bit ... the NA is full of people just beginning to open to it ... their INtuitions tell them that the religions of old have not done a very good job of giving peace and truth to the people of the world ... they want something better, something more loving and peaceful ... not all that different than the movement of the 60's when the young people sought similar changes ...
In the 60's there was a spiritual energy that came from that realm which caused people to change their thinking in mass ... and some drugs led to people experiencing some breakthroughs in the rigidity of their mind-sets, opening them up to other potentials as they allowed themselves to break free of the box that society until then had attempted to build around their thinking ... a box of confinement that the social (and religious) leaders had the answers where materialism and war was "the way" ...
Of course the late-comers in mass did not get "that" message, they missed the esoteric message of real social change and naturally fell head over heals (literally) in love with the exoteric love and drug highs (which went together) ... the esoteric love of all humans was ignored when the exoteric idea of personal conquest in the name of one on one love "acts" gave more "immediate pleasure" ... in that sense the entire movement got a bad rap and petered out (literally) ...
But the NA movement continues and those with the true INtuitive message from the spiritual realm have did their best to explain it by writing countless excellent books about it ... one of the first that I came across was Marilyn Ferguson's " The Aquarian Conspiracy " (highly recommended even now) ... there are countless others available also ... another one that explains the "movement" more "scientifically" would be " Paths Beyond Ego" by Walsh and Vaughan, in which they say:
"" And yet if we only knew how each loss of one's viewpoint is a progress and how life changes when one passes from the stage of the closed truth to the stage of the open truth ... a truth like life itself, too great to be trapped by points of view, because it embraces every point of view ... a truth great enough to deny itself and pass endlessly into a higher truth. ""
But then as well as now, people settle for lesser truths and tend to stop and endlessly play-around with them ... just like the "druggies" of the 60's, the NA'ers who give that a bad name ... and the exoteric religionists of today that settle for the orthodoxy and push their far right conservative versions of Evangelicalism onto everyone they can. ... Often a really good barrel of apples gets entirely spoiled when the few rotten ones are not soon removed and set aside to do their own thing ...
So, back to the OT Bible and the Jews ... NA esoteric information, that more recently "channeled" from the spiritual realm (some extremely accurate and much a bunch of garbage, depending upon the character of the recipient) tells us of the vast cosmic histories which have led up to the human condition here on earth ... where there has been much participation, some good and some bad, from other "more" spiritual realms of our solar system and well beyond ... especially well beyond ... in the "seeding" (genetic engineering) the human "evolution" (let us set the actual "creation" issue aside here) ... not to mention the information that earth has had other "evolved" inhabitants who have "disappeared" at various times due to huge upheavals to nature due to cosmic seasons of origin ... and even a "helping" by the spiritual powers who could do so ... which are not insubstantial truth be known.
The Jews, it is said, are the first of the "advanced" (genetically superior) earth humans ... having come here from another planet in our system which was destroyed in galactic warring ... they had "leaders" who were "more evolved" who were able to advance into spiritual realms and dimensions "above" them ... it was those "leaders", gods actually ... that are written of in the oldest writings known to earth humans, the Tablets of Sumer ... those Tablet messages tell a story of the truth of such beginnings ... and they would explain ... for those willing to step out of the Box that Religion has constructed around them, how those gods concocted a story of God which became the OT Bible ...
The story, especially that explained in the vast writings of Zecharia Sitchen who actually learned the language of the Tablets, puts the entire matter into it's true place in our history ... a place that existing exoteric orthodoxy denies because their entire box of preferred reality depends upon the upholding of their "story" ... to hell with the real truth ... and why I maintain that the true (so-called) "evil" is the very folks that call "others" evil !!!
The God of the Jews ... and subsequently of the Christians ... and of the Muslims ... is the God created by the gods of the Sumer era !!!
Believe it or not, most will not ... but it lends reason to the conflicts in the name of God that have taken place here ever since ... The human race of "that time" was "modified" to become "materialistic" and to value Gold ... to the degree that we would be consumed by the seeking of it ... and the hoarding of it.
The reason being ... the gods required it for their own planetary uses ... on a particular planet that rotates through our solar system only every so many thousands of years due to it's strange orbit which is vastly different than the ones we (the common folk) know about ...
But those "left in charge" on earth would have a "religion" that kept them in line and supporting the needs of those not here ever since ... of course what these here have not realized, is that even those "gods" have found their truth and peace associated with the greater picture of the "Real GOD" ... yet those here still answer to God rather than GOD.
Speaking of Jews ... and most importantly ... this is NOT ANTI-SEMITIC ... "anti-Semitic" being a word concocted by the Jews to insure that people would succumb to peer pressure so as to never speak ill of them ever again ... that enforced by the atrocities experienced during the Holocaust ... continuing on ... (their is a vast difference between the Jews and the Zionists ... with many overlaps of course) ... " The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion " actually tells a true story of "evil" intent in the concept of the end justifies the means as said God (in truth then intended) ...
Yes ... I know ... it has all been "proved" to be but a Russian Hoax ... BS !
I have read the entire manuscript repeatedly with spiritual truth seeking INtuition ... and take the mention of Jews out of it, even the Zionists of you prefer, and it still gives a most truthful outline of the feelings and intentions of those of vast wealth who would control this entire world for their own aims ... the greatest conspiracy of all time ... the most well protected one also ... but a vast conspiracy never the less ... no matter how many folks have preferred to believe that no such can or even could exist without them knowing about it ... the only reason people will not know about it is because they choose to not believe it ... the information exists !!! (Hidden and disinformationed as it has intentionally become).
If you think that the Arab world and the Muslims are not aware of this and putting some truth into the believing of it ... mis-informed and dis-informed as much of it might be ... the underlying truth of those intentions "rings their bells of credulity" ... and mine ... and I seek only the highest truth.
I do not mention this, and the dualisms of the world, in order to cast blame, make judgments and condemnations ... only to get to the basic truths so that all can see them in the proper light in order to have something true to base their decisions and discernments upon ... we can still, those willing anyway, forgive and love each other, get on with a new future finally based upon a truth rather than lies ... I rest my case (for now). PEACE !
IMnsHO.
(this was copied from a recent comment of mine on LYR ... )(from:http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977980050)
VISIONS OF GOD ... EXOTERICALLY FUNDAMENTAL ... OR ... ESOTERICALLY SPIRITUAL ??
There are countless ways to envision GOD (even God and god(s)), enough that should satisfy anyone and everyone. So, if we would just slow down a bit and seek out the basic fundamental truth of the subject, we might just find that we are all on the very same path, just using different tools and vehicles.
I have recently been very active on another thread where I have made a couple (or more) comments that are, seemingly to me, important enough to be shared further with all.
I will post them here hoping that you will excuse the inconsistencies of certain names and thoughts related to the original (more than to this) where they exist. Treat them as separate subjects if you so desire to read or comment here ... but if interested further, here is the article they come from.
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:10am EDT
My "faith" is that GOD is the ALL of Creation ... not "separate" from nor "outside" of, but that every aspect and piece of it are the "parts" of which GOD consists of.
GOD then being considered the relative whole, or "First Person" of the Trinity, depending upon how one wants to define relativities, would be a relative (+) ... Creation then is the relative (-) ... and ubiquitous throughout Creation is the Holy Spirit of GOD as the (=) ... All together (+=-).
In the above "arrangement" it is the Spiritual component, of GOD, as the (=) being the closest and most sublime experience we can have of GOD as living breathing humans ... and "that" Spirit can truthfully called (named) by anything that denotes it as to what it really is ... call it the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, your own Soul/higher Self, or even the Spirit of Christ, including the name Christ Jesus if one is so inclined ... but it must be, to be true, your most highest expectation of what GOD offers to you.
If you then are doing what you believe is the best that you can in following religious dogma and creed to the best of your ability believing it your highest truth, then you are OK in GOD's eye (so to speak) ...
So, as you Sue have said, we are each on our own path and at differing stages along the way ... some want to see a more objective Jesus Christ as their saving grace and best they can do pending his promised "second coming" ... others, such as myself, believe that the "second coming" will be when we open our body, mind, and Soul to the experience of reception of the Spirit from withIN ... by any "name" representing the highest truth and unconditional love available ...
The more conservative the outlook, the more reserved the person in the direction of objectivity and materialized "proofs" ... the more liberal the philosophy, the more open to potentials of possibility, especially in the realm of subjectivity ... which is what GOD and Spirit are most about.
IMnsHO.
The next is :
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 2:22pm EDT
I believe that GOD will present Himself to us as whatever we think we need to find Him ... assuming that we really and truly are looking for Him (or Her) ..
Then be that, as in my case, a higher Self, found to be my Soul, ...(and female in nature to balance "us" out to a neutral (=) in the total spiritual package, halfway between my "former" belief and that of an eventual Omega with GOD))... or in the case of TICA that being Jesus Christ ... and in the case of John (so it seems) it being "The Book" ...
Whatever the "Tool", whatever the "Image", whatever the "Concept" ... IF it is for the final goal of being close to GOD as the epitome of Love and Truth related to the whole of the UNIverse, "created" or "not", IF the intention and goal is sufficient in the eyes of said GOD, you will become united ... I believe myself "Spiritually" united, TICA believes herself so also via Christ ... John, I assume that you do also through The Book ... whatever it is that unites us with GOD unites us with each other THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD ... not JUST a TOOL ... we cannot really and truly define GOD, so the best that we can do, and that which we all do most often, is relate to GOD through the TOOL with which we used when we found "Him/Her/It" ... BUT ... forever remember and do not confuse ourselves, THE TOOL is NOT GOD ... it is but A PATH to GOD.
We pick the best tool for the job we attempt to complete ... the tool depends upon the problem we find in front of us that needs correcting, fixing, the best tool is that which does the best job solving our problem ... but I repeat, do not worship the tool in place of the goal, GOD.
This is all a very important issue that more of us need to look into in order to find our common ground around our "source" rather than the "tools" we use. Lets not fight over the tools, there are more than enough to go around ... and for certain ones, we can always share them ... as we would prefer to share GOD with each other. IMnsHO.
And finally the conclusion:
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:02pm EDT
I expect that I am probably about finished on this thread, so will offer one final thought before I go and turn a couple of my earlier comments into my own latest article/post ... I feel that this entire discussion has been very beneficial to us all ... wishful thinking aside. :-)
My latest thought was about the Title of this article ... the nature of the FUNDAMENTAL ... GOD IS THE FUNDAMENTAL ... all else are but various things of which "tools" are a part of the "kit" we use to get down to the BASIC FUNDAMENTAL ...
A belief system for seeking GOD will often be then a "tool" ... many use what they call FAITH ... that often based upon certain tools ... the various faiths being the various tools.
Sometimes, often, a certain tool takes us just so far towards our eventual "repairs" ... sometimes we then, if not yet completely satisfied with the quality and success of our endeavor, switch over to another different, yet related, tool ... whatever it takes to get us to the completion we desire or dream of ...
Some folks only seek a "serviceable" completion, one that "runs" and gets them down the "road" ... their final destination is not the issue so much as the quality of the "ride" and their faith in the fact that they believe it will get them "there" wherever it is they may finally decide later that they want to go ... enjoy the ride then.
Other folks will maybe look for a little more pizazz or excitement for their Sunday Drive, they may want a different "vehicle" (tool) than others on the "road" (path) ... they (and that might refer to me) may not be satisfied with "ordinary" (orthodox) tools because they want to live out more on the edge ... the vehicle then needed by them will be different than others ... it may even be "faster" ... and thus more "dangerous" if mishandled ... it will not be the "fundamental" serviceable vehicle, it will be more "esoteric" ... one being more spiritually "electrified" and exciting to drive ...
And those with the slower yet serviceable, vehicles may get really upset when the speeders roar down "their" road ... after all, if everyone slows down, there will be fewer challenges, the drive will be more peaceful and though it may take longer, the reward will be the same ... so they think ... but will it ? I am not so sure ... I think there is enough road and even enough intermediary points for rest, relaxation, and recuperation, that those who want to use them can, and those more energized can get right on down the road to their final destination ... if they so desire. Some of us, probably all of us, will happily stop to help, or even pickup those along the way should they need or desire a different or speedier "trip" ... and possibly some different more interesting company to converse with ...
There is no need to set up road blocks to check vehicles and credentials as some religious institutions want to do ... the road is not a tollway, it is a free highway with plenty of room ... just watch out for the turnoffs and curves ... and be careful not to stray into oncoming lanes because there are others going different places for different reasons driving different vehicles and using different tools to repair them ...
Let us try to see the "bigger picture" and share it ... be an exoteric fundamentalist if you so choose, but allow the esoteric spiritualist a place on the road also. Please !
Those of you who took the time to read all of this, I thank you profusely from the bottom of my heart. Nemaste, j.
(reprint from:http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977867244 )
I have recently been very active on another thread where I have made a couple (or more) comments that are, seemingly to me, important enough to be shared further with all.
I will post them here hoping that you will excuse the inconsistencies of certain names and thoughts related to the original (more than to this) where they exist. Treat them as separate subjects if you so desire to read or comment here ... but if interested further, here is the article they come from.
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:10am EDT
My "faith" is that GOD is the ALL of Creation ... not "separate" from nor "outside" of, but that every aspect and piece of it are the "parts" of which GOD consists of.
GOD then being considered the relative whole, or "First Person" of the Trinity, depending upon how one wants to define relativities, would be a relative (+) ... Creation then is the relative (-) ... and ubiquitous throughout Creation is the Holy Spirit of GOD as the (=) ... All together (+=-).
In the above "arrangement" it is the Spiritual component, of GOD, as the (=) being the closest and most sublime experience we can have of GOD as living breathing humans ... and "that" Spirit can truthfully called (named) by anything that denotes it as to what it really is ... call it the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, your own Soul/higher Self, or even the Spirit of Christ, including the name Christ Jesus if one is so inclined ... but it must be, to be true, your most highest expectation of what GOD offers to you.
If you then are doing what you believe is the best that you can in following religious dogma and creed to the best of your ability believing it your highest truth, then you are OK in GOD's eye (so to speak) ...
So, as you Sue have said, we are each on our own path and at differing stages along the way ... some want to see a more objective Jesus Christ as their saving grace and best they can do pending his promised "second coming" ... others, such as myself, believe that the "second coming" will be when we open our body, mind, and Soul to the experience of reception of the Spirit from withIN ... by any "name" representing the highest truth and unconditional love available ...
The more conservative the outlook, the more reserved the person in the direction of objectivity and materialized "proofs" ... the more liberal the philosophy, the more open to potentials of possibility, especially in the realm of subjectivity ... which is what GOD and Spirit are most about.
IMnsHO.
The next is :
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 2:22pm EDT
I believe that GOD will present Himself to us as whatever we think we need to find Him ... assuming that we really and truly are looking for Him (or Her) ..
Then be that, as in my case, a higher Self, found to be my Soul, ...(and female in nature to balance "us" out to a neutral (=) in the total spiritual package, halfway between my "former" belief and that of an eventual Omega with GOD))... or in the case of TICA that being Jesus Christ ... and in the case of John (so it seems) it being "The Book" ...
Whatever the "Tool", whatever the "Image", whatever the "Concept" ... IF it is for the final goal of being close to GOD as the epitome of Love and Truth related to the whole of the UNIverse, "created" or "not", IF the intention and goal is sufficient in the eyes of said GOD, you will become united ... I believe myself "Spiritually" united, TICA believes herself so also via Christ ... John, I assume that you do also through The Book ... whatever it is that unites us with GOD unites us with each other THROUGH THE SPIRIT OF GOD ... not JUST a TOOL ... we cannot really and truly define GOD, so the best that we can do, and that which we all do most often, is relate to GOD through the TOOL with which we used when we found "Him/Her/It" ... BUT ... forever remember and do not confuse ourselves, THE TOOL is NOT GOD ... it is but A PATH to GOD.
We pick the best tool for the job we attempt to complete ... the tool depends upon the problem we find in front of us that needs correcting, fixing, the best tool is that which does the best job solving our problem ... but I repeat, do not worship the tool in place of the goal, GOD.
This is all a very important issue that more of us need to look into in order to find our common ground around our "source" rather than the "tools" we use. Lets not fight over the tools, there are more than enough to go around ... and for certain ones, we can always share them ... as we would prefer to share GOD with each other. IMnsHO.
And finally the conclusion:
Jerry Kays Oct 23, 2009, 3:02pm EDT
I expect that I am probably about finished on this thread, so will offer one final thought before I go and turn a couple of my earlier comments into my own latest article/post ... I feel that this entire discussion has been very beneficial to us all ... wishful thinking aside. :-)
My latest thought was about the Title of this article ... the nature of the FUNDAMENTAL ... GOD IS THE FUNDAMENTAL ... all else are but various things of which "tools" are a part of the "kit" we use to get down to the BASIC FUNDAMENTAL ...
A belief system for seeking GOD will often be then a "tool" ... many use what they call FAITH ... that often based upon certain tools ... the various faiths being the various tools.
Sometimes, often, a certain tool takes us just so far towards our eventual "repairs" ... sometimes we then, if not yet completely satisfied with the quality and success of our endeavor, switch over to another different, yet related, tool ... whatever it takes to get us to the completion we desire or dream of ...
Some folks only seek a "serviceable" completion, one that "runs" and gets them down the "road" ... their final destination is not the issue so much as the quality of the "ride" and their faith in the fact that they believe it will get them "there" wherever it is they may finally decide later that they want to go ... enjoy the ride then.
Other folks will maybe look for a little more pizazz or excitement for their Sunday Drive, they may want a different "vehicle" (tool) than others on the "road" (path) ... they (and that might refer to me) may not be satisfied with "ordinary" (orthodox) tools because they want to live out more on the edge ... the vehicle then needed by them will be different than others ... it may even be "faster" ... and thus more "dangerous" if mishandled ... it will not be the "fundamental" serviceable vehicle, it will be more "esoteric" ... one being more spiritually "electrified" and exciting to drive ...
And those with the slower yet serviceable, vehicles may get really upset when the speeders roar down "their" road ... after all, if everyone slows down, there will be fewer challenges, the drive will be more peaceful and though it may take longer, the reward will be the same ... so they think ... but will it ? I am not so sure ... I think there is enough road and even enough intermediary points for rest, relaxation, and recuperation, that those who want to use them can, and those more energized can get right on down the road to their final destination ... if they so desire. Some of us, probably all of us, will happily stop to help, or even pickup those along the way should they need or desire a different or speedier "trip" ... and possibly some different more interesting company to converse with ...
There is no need to set up road blocks to check vehicles and credentials as some religious institutions want to do ... the road is not a tollway, it is a free highway with plenty of room ... just watch out for the turnoffs and curves ... and be careful not to stray into oncoming lanes because there are others going different places for different reasons driving different vehicles and using different tools to repair them ...
Let us try to see the "bigger picture" and share it ... be an exoteric fundamentalist if you so choose, but allow the esoteric spiritualist a place on the road also. Please !
Those of you who took the time to read all of this, I thank you profusely from the bottom of my heart. Nemaste, j.
(reprint from:http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977867244 )
IDEOLOGY ... HOW "OUR SYSTEM" REALLY WORKS ...
This nation was founded upon the concept of two political parties ... not so much opposing each other ... as cooperating for the common cause of the nation itself.
Now though, we have been divided in acrimony for the purposes of control by the leaders ... those leaders being our corrupt politicians that seek rather the"perks" of the K-Street Lobby payoff, and multiple terms in office for their own purposes, rather than of service to those they were intended to serve.
It is called divide and conquer ... the oldest tactic of conflict known to mankind ... and perpetrated not by those "leaders" we envision and know of, as much as those with even greater wealth who hide in the shadows of anonymity pulling the strings of all of those under them such as our mentioned politicians, their staffs, the think-tanks that inform them, and the heads of the media that informs us ...
All such is built on a hierarchical pyramid construct based upon a "need to know only" separation where those nearer to the apex, the top, are the only ones that know the full story and intentions of the rather small (comparatively) group who actually do the controlling while those under them either fail to suspect the ulterior motives, or keep silent rather than suffer the consequences of losing their position and it's rewards.
But as long as we fall for what "they" intend, we encourage the "game" ... as we instead of looking up for the truth, fight ideologically with each other ... we also being but puppets in that regard.
The sophistication of our actual controllers is so great that they have actually convinced us into believing that the politicians we elect will actually be serving us rather than them, even the politicians themselves are relatively unaware of the degree of control being exercised by those above them ... we have all been been brainwashed over our lifetimes to never suspect.
IMnsHO.
(The above was left originally as a comment on another thread and placed here for my own record keeping.)
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977809886 )
Now though, we have been divided in acrimony for the purposes of control by the leaders ... those leaders being our corrupt politicians that seek rather the"perks" of the K-Street Lobby payoff, and multiple terms in office for their own purposes, rather than of service to those they were intended to serve.
It is called divide and conquer ... the oldest tactic of conflict known to mankind ... and perpetrated not by those "leaders" we envision and know of, as much as those with even greater wealth who hide in the shadows of anonymity pulling the strings of all of those under them such as our mentioned politicians, their staffs, the think-tanks that inform them, and the heads of the media that informs us ...
All such is built on a hierarchical pyramid construct based upon a "need to know only" separation where those nearer to the apex, the top, are the only ones that know the full story and intentions of the rather small (comparatively) group who actually do the controlling while those under them either fail to suspect the ulterior motives, or keep silent rather than suffer the consequences of losing their position and it's rewards.
But as long as we fall for what "they" intend, we encourage the "game" ... as we instead of looking up for the truth, fight ideologically with each other ... we also being but puppets in that regard.
The sophistication of our actual controllers is so great that they have actually convinced us into believing that the politicians we elect will actually be serving us rather than them, even the politicians themselves are relatively unaware of the degree of control being exercised by those above them ... we have all been been brainwashed over our lifetimes to never suspect.
IMnsHO.
(The above was left originally as a comment on another thread and placed here for my own record keeping.)
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977809886 )
NOTHING: ... What is it ... where is it ... is it a god or GOD ???
I awoke this morning thinking about nothing ... for just a moment ... is that where it is located ... in a moment ?
Could I, as my thought be that nothing ?
Then ... IF ... there is one ... a GOD ... where is it ... what is it ... when is it ??
IF GOD is ALL ... does THAT MAKE ME NOTHING ? ... OR ... a god as a potential GOD ??
Just something to think about ... and just for the record to record my thought of the morning. I will be headed down the road soon, so will not be here to participate after tomorrow (very little if any) ... but it should give some of you more intellectually adventurous folks something to think about ... how do you fit into the grand scheme of things ???
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Could I, as my thought be that nothing ?
Then ... IF ... there is one ... a GOD ... where is it ... what is it ... when is it ??
IF GOD is ALL ... does THAT MAKE ME NOTHING ? ... OR ... a god as a potential GOD ??
Just something to think about ... and just for the record to record my thought of the morning. I will be headed down the road soon, so will not be here to participate after tomorrow (very little if any) ... but it should give some of you more intellectually adventurous folks something to think about ... how do you fit into the grand scheme of things ???
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JUST HOW REAL IS YOUR REALITY ???
What is real ?
What is reality ?
Why do you think that is so ?
How do you suppose it all came about ?
What I believe that most folks claim is real, is that which they can sense with their 5 objective senses, the touch, taste, smell, hear and see, of the outer material realm of their physically manifested experience.
For those objective oriented “rationalists”, that is the only logical answer to the question of relative importance in regards to reality, everything else is lesser, and if of the mind, subjective and seldom to be trusted where anything of importance is concerned.
They then tend to think that the mind is but some thinking activity generated in their brain and that intuition, imagination, the conscience and dreams, are then all “manufactured” by brain electro-chemical activity.
Most of our world society, especially in the “west”, seems to think like that, with of course some exceptions such as the more “spiritual” amongst us.
Where does that leave the “religionists” one might ask then ? I would suggest that the bulk of them are objective in their primary consideration and that their religion is very secondary to that. Thus that which matters religiously most to them is what might take place in the hereafter and what they call their “faith” suffices to insure them of the best outcome. Few of them believe enough though to “test” that faith by putting their very life on the line for it. (excluding of course the Japanese Kamikazes and the Muslim Martyrs).
Science then becomes the most impressive discipline for the objective rationalist, even for those religious, even though some might claim otherwise.
Under science then is the very beginning of human life seen as evolutionary and argued against by many religionists who believe in a God “created” beginning. I sometimes wonder why it even matters to folks how we began … if one seeks a particular beginning to believe in so as to validate all other subsequent experience, then it stands to reason that they will support one or another view of our beginnings, especially, as in the case of the religionists, if they think it determines the outcome of their ending.
Of course these are really just “generalizations” and the truth of the matter is that people range widely in their belief systems, and even that thinking being subjective to at least momentary changes when special conditions are experienced.
Personally, I was more into the scientific mode of thinking for most of my life and being then what is called an agnostic in regards to religion (spirituality was just a part of religion to my mind then). Via such thinking then, the ego self was #1 when the chips were down, survival and the well being of that self were primary. But being a “family man” with wife and children, it was suspected deep down inside that there may well become a time when “they” became “primary” …
Eventually in my life though, I became depressed about the world condition and the lack of truth being expressed in it, especially by most of the folks that held supposedly important posts of leadership and authority. I eventually decided that if that was as good as the world had to offer, then I wanted no more part of it. I even became somewhat suicidal about it all. I had no concerns about an afterlife and little desire for more of the present life, yet I held onto some small amount of hope for a number of years.
Then I began to think about things that I had never considered before, things such as the subjective aspects of thought and the mind and if there could possibly be a relationship that I could buy into related to a spiritual realm outside of religion. The more I looked, the more I found !
I now believe that the Spiritual Realm, whatever that amounts to, is the a priori, the very essence of the source of all of that experienced a posteriori here in the physical realm we commonly experience. That everything is interconnected with spiritual intelligence and that the “higher” reality, if I had to choose one, would be that of the Spiritual, and I now fully expect to give up this life just for that when the time comes, no fear involved.
Thus as religions have said, reality is what we make it to be. We are made in the “image of” GOD (whatever that is) and are thus mini-creators in our own right … and co-creators with the society we associate with, cumulatively, as we think, so it is or will be.
I now know that what we call “facts” and the “truth” are but relatively so as concoctions we as humans have “made-up” as we went, in order to have something in common to “agree” upon for the sake of relatedness in our communications.
Such things as the measurements of time and space are but things that we have decided long ago as a basis of our understanding and are in the greater picture of GOD’s eternity no more real or valid than anything else. They are all “arbitrary” when you get right down to it, as is what “we think” of our reality.
IMnsHO. (In My not so Humble Opinion)
I would hope that the above might inspire some “deeper” thinking and related comments by others … have at it.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977757072 )
What is reality ?
Why do you think that is so ?
How do you suppose it all came about ?
What I believe that most folks claim is real, is that which they can sense with their 5 objective senses, the touch, taste, smell, hear and see, of the outer material realm of their physically manifested experience.
For those objective oriented “rationalists”, that is the only logical answer to the question of relative importance in regards to reality, everything else is lesser, and if of the mind, subjective and seldom to be trusted where anything of importance is concerned.
They then tend to think that the mind is but some thinking activity generated in their brain and that intuition, imagination, the conscience and dreams, are then all “manufactured” by brain electro-chemical activity.
Most of our world society, especially in the “west”, seems to think like that, with of course some exceptions such as the more “spiritual” amongst us.
Where does that leave the “religionists” one might ask then ? I would suggest that the bulk of them are objective in their primary consideration and that their religion is very secondary to that. Thus that which matters religiously most to them is what might take place in the hereafter and what they call their “faith” suffices to insure them of the best outcome. Few of them believe enough though to “test” that faith by putting their very life on the line for it. (excluding of course the Japanese Kamikazes and the Muslim Martyrs).
Science then becomes the most impressive discipline for the objective rationalist, even for those religious, even though some might claim otherwise.
Under science then is the very beginning of human life seen as evolutionary and argued against by many religionists who believe in a God “created” beginning. I sometimes wonder why it even matters to folks how we began … if one seeks a particular beginning to believe in so as to validate all other subsequent experience, then it stands to reason that they will support one or another view of our beginnings, especially, as in the case of the religionists, if they think it determines the outcome of their ending.
Of course these are really just “generalizations” and the truth of the matter is that people range widely in their belief systems, and even that thinking being subjective to at least momentary changes when special conditions are experienced.
Personally, I was more into the scientific mode of thinking for most of my life and being then what is called an agnostic in regards to religion (spirituality was just a part of religion to my mind then). Via such thinking then, the ego self was #1 when the chips were down, survival and the well being of that self were primary. But being a “family man” with wife and children, it was suspected deep down inside that there may well become a time when “they” became “primary” …
Eventually in my life though, I became depressed about the world condition and the lack of truth being expressed in it, especially by most of the folks that held supposedly important posts of leadership and authority. I eventually decided that if that was as good as the world had to offer, then I wanted no more part of it. I even became somewhat suicidal about it all. I had no concerns about an afterlife and little desire for more of the present life, yet I held onto some small amount of hope for a number of years.
Then I began to think about things that I had never considered before, things such as the subjective aspects of thought and the mind and if there could possibly be a relationship that I could buy into related to a spiritual realm outside of religion. The more I looked, the more I found !
I now believe that the Spiritual Realm, whatever that amounts to, is the a priori, the very essence of the source of all of that experienced a posteriori here in the physical realm we commonly experience. That everything is interconnected with spiritual intelligence and that the “higher” reality, if I had to choose one, would be that of the Spiritual, and I now fully expect to give up this life just for that when the time comes, no fear involved.
Thus as religions have said, reality is what we make it to be. We are made in the “image of” GOD (whatever that is) and are thus mini-creators in our own right … and co-creators with the society we associate with, cumulatively, as we think, so it is or will be.
I now know that what we call “facts” and the “truth” are but relatively so as concoctions we as humans have “made-up” as we went, in order to have something in common to “agree” upon for the sake of relatedness in our communications.
Such things as the measurements of time and space are but things that we have decided long ago as a basis of our understanding and are in the greater picture of GOD’s eternity no more real or valid than anything else. They are all “arbitrary” when you get right down to it, as is what “we think” of our reality.
IMnsHO. (In My not so Humble Opinion)
I would hope that the above might inspire some “deeper” thinking and related comments by others … have at it.
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977757072 )
POLAR EXTREMES as compared to BALANCE ... and how such affects our REALITY.
From "my" perspective (for what it's worth) "balance" is "perfection" ... in that in every "whole" there must be an equal but opposite to all "sides" ... the very center of a circle or a sphere being the example of the balance point, the center, or "perfection" when all considered is accounted for. That same place, being the essence of the total, is also considered the "heart" of that total.
If and when a "universe" is considered "spiritually," it is said that GOD is at the center of all (except for those who claim God as outside looking in) and GOD being defined most consistently as unconditional Love and highest Truth, GOD is considered at the "heart" of all matter denoting especially that Love and non-judgmental acceptance of "all" ...
That "all" consisting of the whole of "creation" which naturally includes "both" potentials, of positive (+), that some see as good, at the extreme as "perfection", as well as the negative (-), which others see as bad, so bad they place a name such as "Satan" on it to personalize it.
Thus for some, if not most, it becomes a "linear" picture of reality where they effectively draw themselves a "line" where they place GOD, and good as perfection, at the far (let us say "right" as in righteous) and place the "opposite", the "other" as the "less than", the "worst" because at that other "extreme" exists a hell of death and destruction into a nothing at all (in their linear minds) !
These folks then are "dualists" that see things separately, divided or subtracted from each other into the "acceptable" and the "non-acceptable" ... in the extreme such thinking would denote man, such as in the original man, Adam, the "male" (and "electrically plumbed" as "positive") as "first" (primary), "best" (the original), "good" (as it gets between that and the subsequent) ... then "mistakenly" placing the woman, Eve, as a "secondary", female (and electrically plumbed as the "negative") and thus "lesser" creative "partner" of "subservience" ... "woman, get thee "behind" thy man" ... no "middle ground" "fence sitting" allowed either, because that is where the "other" (the homosexuals ?) side can tempt you away from your "perfection" ...
So what about that "dualism" seeking extremes ? The "believers", and most of us have been "indoctrinated" over our lifetimes to be such "believers", or at least that has been the intent of our "authorities," both religious as well as secular "institutions," who want "their followers" to get behind them as leaders, the one convinced to be either a "leader" or a subservient "follower" and to not rock the boat, just maintain the "orthodoxy" as the leaders direct. Individual freedoms suppressed for the greater good of the "organization" ... with of course the "particular" organization being chosen "over" any other ... thus competition and conflict with "other" (organizations) continues.
The preceding has been pretty much the "dualistic" story of differences at odds with each other, (+/-), where they have created a gap or void as (/) between the "parts", (+/-).
The "more real", the "original" (before the "fall from the garden") story, was the "real perfection", a "real balance", a story of "equal BUT opposites" AND their CONNECTION (their "commonality"), that of GOD.
That being a "TRINITY of (+=-)" where GOD was (and still is, especially as Spirit) the (=) (equalizer) in between all differences, (+) AND (-). Thus (+=-)>(+/-) ... [> greater than].
In short, we should be able, based upon understanding the preceding, "now" be able, to see why so many think and act as they do in this world and why we have so much conflict and strife. As I see it we must begin to understand the Trinity as transcendent to the Dualism that "seems" to exist ... we must realize that GOD, and GOD's Spirit, is our commonality, our loving connector, that which would allow more appreciation of natural diversity, even between opposites, that which promotes cooperation, compassion, and that which results in creative SYNERGY ... rather than the conflicting competitive destruction of dualism's "extremes".
The "point being" ... the CENTER is the BALANCE point of any complete whole and creation is such a complete whole, and GOD is at the center of any truth of it, in Spirit ! That is in every time and place as the "now" when found. All one has to do is seriously seek such an understanding and it will be granted to them. Such a "REALization" will be the "remembrance" of the original wholeness from which we came (fell ?) ...
Quit seeking "extremes" as a "win/lose" issue ... seek the common balance point of Spirit and appreciate the potential synergy available from diversity cooperating with common goals towards the betterment of all of humanity and creation as a whole ...
I apologize (again) for the length and the repetition of such "messages" from me to you all ... but this is the core of my "teaching" that I feel compelled to do ... we must come to understand the workings and reasons for our present condition in order to differentiate between it and a potential "better" in order to improve our lot in life ... to become Spiritual in the generic sense of non-religiousness may be "the answer" ... IMnsHO.
[this was originally a comment post to
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977697395
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977702431 )
If and when a "universe" is considered "spiritually," it is said that GOD is at the center of all (except for those who claim God as outside looking in) and GOD being defined most consistently as unconditional Love and highest Truth, GOD is considered at the "heart" of all matter denoting especially that Love and non-judgmental acceptance of "all" ...
That "all" consisting of the whole of "creation" which naturally includes "both" potentials, of positive (+), that some see as good, at the extreme as "perfection", as well as the negative (-), which others see as bad, so bad they place a name such as "Satan" on it to personalize it.
Thus for some, if not most, it becomes a "linear" picture of reality where they effectively draw themselves a "line" where they place GOD, and good as perfection, at the far (let us say "right" as in righteous) and place the "opposite", the "other" as the "less than", the "worst" because at that other "extreme" exists a hell of death and destruction into a nothing at all (in their linear minds) !
These folks then are "dualists" that see things separately, divided or subtracted from each other into the "acceptable" and the "non-acceptable" ... in the extreme such thinking would denote man, such as in the original man, Adam, the "male" (and "electrically plumbed" as "positive") as "first" (primary), "best" (the original), "good" (as it gets between that and the subsequent) ... then "mistakenly" placing the woman, Eve, as a "secondary", female (and electrically plumbed as the "negative") and thus "lesser" creative "partner" of "subservience" ... "woman, get thee "behind" thy man" ... no "middle ground" "fence sitting" allowed either, because that is where the "other" (the homosexuals ?) side can tempt you away from your "perfection" ...
So what about that "dualism" seeking extremes ? The "believers", and most of us have been "indoctrinated" over our lifetimes to be such "believers", or at least that has been the intent of our "authorities," both religious as well as secular "institutions," who want "their followers" to get behind them as leaders, the one convinced to be either a "leader" or a subservient "follower" and to not rock the boat, just maintain the "orthodoxy" as the leaders direct. Individual freedoms suppressed for the greater good of the "organization" ... with of course the "particular" organization being chosen "over" any other ... thus competition and conflict with "other" (organizations) continues.
The preceding has been pretty much the "dualistic" story of differences at odds with each other, (+/-), where they have created a gap or void as (/) between the "parts", (+/-).
The "more real", the "original" (before the "fall from the garden") story, was the "real perfection", a "real balance", a story of "equal BUT opposites" AND their CONNECTION (their "commonality"), that of GOD.
That being a "TRINITY of (+=-)" where GOD was (and still is, especially as Spirit) the (=) (equalizer) in between all differences, (+) AND (-). Thus (+=-)>(+/-) ... [> greater than].
In short, we should be able, based upon understanding the preceding, "now" be able, to see why so many think and act as they do in this world and why we have so much conflict and strife. As I see it we must begin to understand the Trinity as transcendent to the Dualism that "seems" to exist ... we must realize that GOD, and GOD's Spirit, is our commonality, our loving connector, that which would allow more appreciation of natural diversity, even between opposites, that which promotes cooperation, compassion, and that which results in creative SYNERGY ... rather than the conflicting competitive destruction of dualism's "extremes".
The "point being" ... the CENTER is the BALANCE point of any complete whole and creation is such a complete whole, and GOD is at the center of any truth of it, in Spirit ! That is in every time and place as the "now" when found. All one has to do is seriously seek such an understanding and it will be granted to them. Such a "REALization" will be the "remembrance" of the original wholeness from which we came (fell ?) ...
Quit seeking "extremes" as a "win/lose" issue ... seek the common balance point of Spirit and appreciate the potential synergy available from diversity cooperating with common goals towards the betterment of all of humanity and creation as a whole ...
I apologize (again) for the length and the repetition of such "messages" from me to you all ... but this is the core of my "teaching" that I feel compelled to do ... we must come to understand the workings and reasons for our present condition in order to differentiate between it and a potential "better" in order to improve our lot in life ... to become Spiritual in the generic sense of non-religiousness may be "the answer" ... IMnsHO.
[this was originally a comment post to
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977697395
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977702431 )
PARADOX ...
Paradox is a no-no to dualists ... dualists require "completion", clear cut decision making between the extremes of choice, you are either with them or against them. Good (+) or bad (-) ... (+/-).
One reason we "think" that way, aside from "religious" indoctrination which is the real source, is that we were taught in elementary school that:
(+=+) ... and ... (-=-) ... and like the east and the west, the twain shall never meet (so it has been said, in error).
(+=+) associated with (-=-) becomes then dualistically (+/-) where the "higher" is considered by most the "most valuable" ...
But given this "valuation" factor, the "lower", as in darkness, relative to light, is forced to take the role of "undesirable" and knowing itself a valid necessary co-equal (yet opposite) "partner" with light, takes offense at the lessor consideration of "judgment" and resists with associated "conflict" ...
The judgmental nature of the more "righteous" tends to condemn the relationship and places a gap or void (/) in between the parties (+/-).
With the universal truth and perennial wisdom, one can know that duality should be transcended with trinity ... the void and gap (/) of duality should be replaced with the "connector", the commonality and mediator, the spirit of GOD as the third member of trinity as (=) ... (+=-) !
Of course that "appears" on the surface to the dualist, as a "paradox", unacceptable to them. They will remain objectors and continue to conflict with universal truth because they will not yet accept the paradox.
To LGLG (Let Go Let GOD) resolves the paradox issue and results in lasting peace all around where the extremes of natural diversity are able, and more than willing, able to use their natural and unique talents cooperatively for the win/win result of creative synergy.
Paradox Rocks !!!
(reprinted from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977696583 )
One reason we "think" that way, aside from "religious" indoctrination which is the real source, is that we were taught in elementary school that:
(+=+) ... and ... (-=-) ... and like the east and the west, the twain shall never meet (so it has been said, in error).
(+=+) associated with (-=-) becomes then dualistically (+/-) where the "higher" is considered by most the "most valuable" ...
But given this "valuation" factor, the "lower", as in darkness, relative to light, is forced to take the role of "undesirable" and knowing itself a valid necessary co-equal (yet opposite) "partner" with light, takes offense at the lessor consideration of "judgment" and resists with associated "conflict" ...
The judgmental nature of the more "righteous" tends to condemn the relationship and places a gap or void (/) in between the parties (+/-).
With the universal truth and perennial wisdom, one can know that duality should be transcended with trinity ... the void and gap (/) of duality should be replaced with the "connector", the commonality and mediator, the spirit of GOD as the third member of trinity as (=) ... (+=-) !
Of course that "appears" on the surface to the dualist, as a "paradox", unacceptable to them. They will remain objectors and continue to conflict with universal truth because they will not yet accept the paradox.
To LGLG (Let Go Let GOD) resolves the paradox issue and results in lasting peace all around where the extremes of natural diversity are able, and more than willing, able to use their natural and unique talents cooperatively for the win/win result of creative synergy.
Paradox Rocks !!!
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Forty Days and Forty Nights ... ?
Since before Thanksgiving I have been in the hospital(s) resulting from a serious ATV accident while trail building up a steep mountain ridge near home. It was there that I totaled out my machine and my entire right hip ...
It is a very interesting story in it's own right what with all that was involved in how I was able to be found and rescued by local volunteers, being carried out in the dark on a board stretcher, finally transferred between various vehicles to wards the bottom from 4x4 to ambulance(s) that had me in the hospital about 7 hours after the incident.
The first hospital in Montana questioned their ability to "fix" me, normally sending such injuries on to a larger facility near Seattle, but they decided to try ... it failed and required my airlift to Spokane two states away to repair via two more surgeries involving many metal plates and associated screws and threaded rods for adjustment.
There arose many complications and setbacks requiring 16 days in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) where I was at my lowest possible point often desiring to just be dead and over with it all.
But alas, I am still here pondering the reason and/or meaning of it all from the spiritual point of view. As many who know me are aware, I have claimed a spirituality that I swear by ... that seemed to just drop out of sight during that entire hospital ordeal like I had dropped down into lower level where there was no compassionate GOD to be had ...
I now wonder if it were not related to the experience of Jesus walking the wilderness dealing with Satan etc ... maybe a testing "right of passage" ... ???
(reprint from: http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474977610042 )
It is a very interesting story in it's own right what with all that was involved in how I was able to be found and rescued by local volunteers, being carried out in the dark on a board stretcher, finally transferred between various vehicles to wards the bottom from 4x4 to ambulance(s) that had me in the hospital about 7 hours after the incident.
The first hospital in Montana questioned their ability to "fix" me, normally sending such injuries on to a larger facility near Seattle, but they decided to try ... it failed and required my airlift to Spokane two states away to repair via two more surgeries involving many metal plates and associated screws and threaded rods for adjustment.
There arose many complications and setbacks requiring 16 days in the CCU (Critical Care Unit) where I was at my lowest possible point often desiring to just be dead and over with it all.
But alas, I am still here pondering the reason and/or meaning of it all from the spiritual point of view. As many who know me are aware, I have claimed a spirituality that I swear by ... that seemed to just drop out of sight during that entire hospital ordeal like I had dropped down into lower level where there was no compassionate GOD to be had ...
I now wonder if it were not related to the experience of Jesus walking the wilderness dealing with Satan etc ... maybe a testing "right of passage" ... ???
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